anti-everything, why has he been negotiating with them as if he could get a yes from them? >> because the president doesn't watch zombie movies. and you can't negotiate with zombies, you can't trust zombies and you -- you know, he continued after that point. i read the "rolling stone" interview today, and that was a striking acknowledgment on his part. after getting that big no from them on stimulus spending, he ran into it again and again on the energy front, on health care, on wall street reform, and each time he was, you know, he spent a lot of effort and a lot of political capital trying to work with the zombie party. and he kept hitting his head against the same wall. maybe if he'd come to that conclusion earlier, things would look a little different today. >> these zombies, though, don't eat brains, clearly. you know this. this president more than any and probably we've seen in a long time really take seriously the idea that he's a president of people who didn't vote for him.